ago. This could simply be because of a difference in hardware. The enemy always seem to win the naval battles. I wrote a program to calculate every singe possible tank, give me your stats and I'll tell you the cheapest tank that fulfills them. [deleted] • 5 yr. britian. Their survivability is in their speed. 12, spamming subs is no longer a viable option for fleet-building. PeaceWalking • 4 yr. So there currently two populair navy strategies that I see floating around. Submarine spam is the only way to play hoi4 navy Reply Kermez • Additional comment actions. 375K subscribers in the hoi4 community. Hulls are the foundational component of ships, and are unlocked through research. 0 version. Current issue is that the subs are literally too fast for the destroyers to fight so they do. There's no way around that. Like I hate that in order to properly organize your navy you have to regroup all the ships to fleets named task force one, task force two and so on. 9. 299k members in the hoi4 community. "Hybrid": This is what I've been trying lately. Sirrestrikk • 4 yr. Also, go for bigger divisions (40, 42 or 45 width) when on offense due to focusing and attack to defense ratios. Click the portrait icon of an army without a general, there should be a button at the bottom of the window that says Promote division commander or something similar, click that and it gives you a list of division commanders, select one to promote to general. ago. You could also use something like the tool pack mod to just give yourself some of the land. ago. Navy Works like: 1 Admiral has a Fleet, each fleet has different Task Forces. anti air seems useless when playing the soviets the areas are so huge a. In this short tutorial esque guide I will show how the current best way to counter the Axis sub spam, as the Allies (specifically the United Kingdom). Cruisers. These are very weak ships, and thus you can try to destroy them before they become problematic. Subs are the best scouts, best convoy raiders, and best minelayers. . . 11. 1 Lavaix1 Fleet Admiral • 1 yr. spam destroyers armed with best radar and torpedoes and see what happens. 666. Fallback lines are there to make the A. The reason for submarine spamming in game and in history iis because they were cheap. 21. So I build an airbase, and before I can select some planes to put in the airbase, my allies put 5000 planes in a level one airbaseBest. Just want to know how honestly. L. Give collies submarine. Also spam some naval bombers and put them in the attack english channel mode. • 17 days ago. I find the cruiser submarine available via "U-boat effort" focus to be quite good at enforcing a blockade sufficiently far from Britain. If a ship's anti air attack is below 5, the weight is increased by 5 * (5 - <AA>). Multiplayer sync problem : r/hoi4. This is where you have a submarine with an engine and single torpedo tube and build as many as. The weaknesses are enemy airpower, good ASW cruisers, or destroyer spam (but destroyers only deter and not kill). It's the meta for a reason. Apr 25, 2018. Exemple US Submarine . Apr 12, 2021; Add bookmark #5 Reply. Submarines aren't usually able to sink ships. 1. You have 0% mission efficiency. The main tree is mostly for CVs. Subs are the best scouts, best convoy raiders, and best minelayers. I don't get supremacy and neither win naval battles to weaken the enemy. Destroyers are about 1/3 the Ainti-Air strength of a Light Cruiser, which is the most cost-effective ship for AA (outside of a carrier with fighters). One spot I know of to look for this is in the theater results screen. Coins. the game is made in sweden yet theres no swedish lamguage paradox = lazy. No enemy airports = no red air, simple as that. I play as Germany and war is about to break out in 1939. Yes. Build lots of Fighters / Strategic Bombers to slow down German production. IMHO, there's no reason to build CV if you're just operating in the Med because you can fully cover all of the sea zones with land-based aircraft. Overrun happens when your troops start a retreat into friendly territory, but before their move finishes, the territory changes hands to the enemy, giving them nowhere valid to retreat to. If they hit 0 manpower before you you win. on resubscription it will be reupdated and dl the mods again. I’ve seen Das Boot and it doesn’t take much to take them out of commission. Hell, the most damage done by naval bombers by Germany was the FW-200 that was converted from a passenger aircraft, and real one, not a cover up one like the He-111 disguised as high speed poorly suited mail and passenger planes. Their counter is Battle Cruisers. angry-mustache • 7 yr. ago. Last game I tried building a navy by spamming destroyers, cruisers and grouping them with capitals as well as submarine spam. They all run to the back of the boat to tilt the bow up, then fire a torpedo. DD Destroyer – light, fast, cheap. If they are torpedo destroyers, you can dunk on your opponent and also use light attack heavy cruisers to kill them. ago. Press J to jump to the feed. On the Land fort it says it needs defensive bunker technology, and for the trench it says it needs vaubans. Most subs had one or two small-caliber ( destroyer sized, but without the turret/armor ) dual-purpose gun on them, they would be used when surfaced. It isn't a separate option; just have the players pick the same country in the start lobby and it will automatically become co-op. Destroyers stacked with torpedoes are more reliable than a sub spam. The weaknesses are enemy airpower, good ASW cruisers, or destroyer spam (but destroyers only deter and not kill). If I had to guess its likely supply. When the AI builds Carriers I believe they are 50% Fighter and 50% Naval Bomber. As long as your carrier is on a mission (such as Strike Force), then the air wings will automatically engage when the fleet moves to attack. Maybe your subs don’t have enough coverage or are spread over too many zones. Secondly are the heavy cruisers. There are 5 types of ships that you will use in HOI4: Destroyers. See more. ago. Inside a tank division to help maintain the speed of light or mesium tanks, and boosting org, hp, and defense. 1,265 ratings. 1. a other light cruisers + destroyers and allow the capitals, heavy cruisers & carriers to be destroyed by anything that breathes on them. Whenever you get air superiority spam nukes. This video serves as an easy to get into guide regarding submarines and it's various viable templates. But this is a paradox-wide quality problem right now, probably an issue of budget or management or something, so it's hard for me to lay blame on the HoI4 team. ago. FrontierJustice- • 3 yr. Most of the time as a major if I have a full line (15 factories) working on rifles I will also have a full line for both fighters and CAS. People make tubs first and then refit it with the guns on it. In both world wars, particularly the first, they had a nasty tendency to suffer catastrophic explosions with nearly all hands lost. 25 points worth of shore bombardment from naval fleet. Sink the Italian Fleet. Even shorter for something like India. Their survivability is in their speed. Against a stronger naval opponent we can focus on tying up their fleet and destroying supply lines to starve their war machine. HoI4 navies were always bad. Trade Interdiction. At 1936 level, the DE costs 1100 and the DD costs 1300. Due to submarines being nerfed in 1. 8K subscribers Subscribe 2. Typically, they are destroyers or submarines for maximum spam. "Forget all your naval options and spam submarines" - Sun Tzu. Yes. 5 (100 * 1. Submarine Spam. The brute-force answer. ago. The fact that patches are pretty much only released with DLCs and DLCs are released once per year doesn't really help, either. bwhite9 • General of the Army • 4 yr. 3 comments. Tanks can do the same thing. Yes but for other countries that aren’t japan. If you're running at speed 5 and using a conventional hard drive (i. Go to hoi4 r/hoi4 • by. Make sure that all the armies you want on a front have no orders. Maybe your subs don’t have enough coverage or are spread over too many zones. Outside of a tank division as their own dedicated motorized. 005 * ship production cost in industrial capacity (IC) + 0. BETA SGp - Save Game Parser - extracts statistics from SGc. Content is available under Attribution-ShareAlike 3. This thread is archived. When a large nation goes to war and an ally grants you control of some of their divisions, what are the draw backs? For example, lets say I'm Germany, and Italy grants me control of 30 of their divisions. a. They are really only useful for convoy-raiding and some niche fleet compositions. The first few patches it was so unbalanced the meta was to spam one ship type (which type changed from patch to patch). Below water, obviously, is submarine spam. For example convoys have only 0. It splashes up into the air and crashes straight through a. Convoy raiding, we’ve discovered, just doesn’t work. I make offensive units high supply and defenders low supply, but that's just my recommendation, you can play differently. At the start of the game, each country will have a. They are so good some games literally ban them because they are so. A basic panzerschiffe is going to cost 5235 IC 4S (steel), which is a pretty major investment for only 220 HP, which is an IC/HP ratio of about 23. 8 × 5 = 24. I've always annihilated and been annihilated if subs/destroyers run into a large naval group. HOI4 Navy Guide | Submarines bigschmokes 4. Heavy tank destroyers and SPArt are both really good. CowboyRonin • 1 yr. 2. If the transport plane can only reach 25% of the selected state, their supplies are cut accordingly, even if they reach the entire frontline. Look for the surface detection stat. Put in a good engine and a snorkel if you have them so you can evade detection better. I've got a few theories in my head on what I want to do. 1 * 1. RELEASED SGc - Save Game Converter - converts save games to XML format for easy viewing in freeware XML viewers. S. Join. Best Naval Spirits for Submarine spam Question Playing as Ireland, managed to grab Northern Ireland and join the Axis, was wondering which spirits were the best for Submarines only. PeaceWalking • 4 yr. Third Reich; Trade Interdiction for subs maxed; have all sub tech except for torpedo launcher 4; already have that advisor. But you have to do every nation separately. kenzieBHOSbaker • 1 min. Which gives you longer to spot them. DD and Naval Bomber spam. You can also change this setting at the supply hubs themselves but if you do it at the army level it should automatically switch the supply hubs over. trumps_lasagna • 3 yr. The panzerschiffe is also stuck at 80% reliability, dropped 20% by. Great War Mod Cant Find Research For Some Technology. If you want to, subscribe!Link to Discord: to Steam G. Afterwards I left their faction and declared war on. It's allowed me to destroy significant parts of any enemy navy with comparitively minor effort. I know monarchist and Franco spain. [deleted] • 7 yr. HOI4 isn’t working for me. 299k members in the hoi4 community. They're more for convoy raiding. When the war begins, there's obviously many things to produce at the same time. I'm trying to imagine the submarine shooting down airplanes while simultaneously sinking 4 ships. If you have 10 or more than 10 dockyards, you can disporbicya very decent fleet, that will anhilate any ship you see. You can spread out in a line. The DD's find them, the bombers eradicate them. 80% of the game is out the door using such methods, I mean no CZE, no YUG, those alone have trees that can massively change the possible. Im playing in the Millenium Dawn mod, as USA, and I'm planning on invading Afghanistan, but don't know how to approach an invasion. Deliberus Banned. Jun 22, 2020 560 1. So this is not bathtub strat (Cool victory tho comrad). Hover over the unit in your division to see if it can be paradropped. There are 2 ways to use them. I'm put a week aside to fully mod the UI to swedish. Report. I personally divide my subs into 5 groups and set each group a target strength of 20. I personally divide my subs into 5 groups and set each group a target strength of 20 subs. Pretty useless for naval combat. Their main purpose is to keep damage from capital ships. Naval bombers delete the screens, subs kill the convoys and capitals. For example, somebody who is in modern day Tunisia could make Tunisia, Tunis, Carthage, etc. 0. HoI4 is designed to emulate European warfare, the kind of warfare the NRA was not prepared to fight, and it simplifies terrain and supply to such a degree that China's natural advantages are rendered relatively inconsequential. This is from Kaiserreich mod (Before No step back). Use naval bombers. Build 2)’s Cruisers but also spam Destroyers with full torpedoes on them. After the untimely demise of the previous meme thread, I am starting a new one. The Nova Politicus SMP is a realistic geopolitical/world building SMP where players are situated across the earth and make their own realistic countries. r/hoi4. Even low level ports should be able to receive vastly more supply than supply hubs connected by rail. Destroyers have very weak naval guns, while Light cruiser guns are at least good for killing Destroyers. Where RRn indicates your "normal" (pre-tech) bonus to research rate, RRi indicates your "improved" (post-tech) bonus, T indicates the base time to research the tech, and D. 13. 1 Lavaix1 Fleet Admiral • 1 yr. Before joining the war I wanted to naval invade Gibraltar, Malta and Cyprus really quickly to cut off British ports in the Mediterranean and block their access to it, but my navy got immediately obliterated and I only. Saltborko • 4 yr. Below water, obviously, is submarine spam. Go to hoi4 r/hoi4 • by. Sure but there is still sea access from London to Alexandria (supply hub for Africa), it just goes through Panama, the Pacific, and through the Red Sea. spawn [<SubUnit Type>] [<Province ID>] [<Amount>]This is the most powerful doctrine for surface action. Its really fun because all of them have comparable navy and allows proper naval battles unlike in…1. A halfway comprehending of navy player would just spam DD with anti. How do I force an army to use convoys? Here is the short version: I want to land an army worth of modern tanks in the British Raj, my marines are already holding the port after a succesfull naval invasion. Also subs count less towards naval supremacy. In regular war you need to kill pockets in order to keep your XP level. Can I get a little advice on the fleet? Still can't get it how to use it properly, I'm relatively new. "Forget all your naval options and spam submarines" - Sun Tzu. ViniciusSinged • 21 days ago. You trigger an order-of-battle file in which you create divisions as well as the template these divisions use. Forget about attacking the US early on, you can only reach them if you use T2+ Submarines and since they no longer count towards naval supremacy you can never invade. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot. 2. I've been trying to keep up my production, but my two fleets in the area, the Baltic Fleet and the Home Fleet, have. Types of Ships. On steam you can right click on the game and search for "check local installation" or "check local files". Having a ton of navs basically guarantees you’ll win. It’s pretty simple, but takes focus to make it efficient. . kenzieBHOSbaker • 1 min. Not a huge savings but one that adds up. Lose form the Franco British Union then do the. 2. ULTIMATE Submarine META PRO Guide - HOI4 Meta Navy Guide00:00 Subs!00:23 Why subs are broken01:36 Lets make a submarine04:09 Getting started07:44 Trade Inter. [deleted] • 4 yr. light attack spam: the best build because it beats the other non meta builds and the starting fleets of the largest naval player with ease. 127. Rakzhor • Research Scientist • 7 yr. If you start the game with a navy, stack all the subs in one navy and throw the rest of your navy in reserve. In the end airforce >>>>> all in HOI4. If you have 100 base attack, with 10% bonus from commander and 25% bonus from veterancy, your unit would have 137. L. R5: This is totally nonsensical, maybe I could see the logic for rivers providing 6x the supply of rails, but if a supply hub is already connected to a river, it should not suddenly have it's supply reduced if you decide to also connect it by rail. If the host is running the game at a speed one of the players cannot handle and falls more than 24 in game hours behind without the game autopausing they will desync. After that, leave a defensive army along the Polish border in your puppet's territory, they'll play an important role later on during the war. If your carrier is sitting in a port or in a sea zone with no mission, then you can select the air. ago. Dreadnoughts meta leaking into hoi4. Not surprised at the end result. Aka modern space marine for 1. "Carrier Battles" is a good game series about Carrier fighting. Suprcheese • 7 yr. e. It's actually serious. And that's the list of useful options for naval combat. After they are gone go to the MS website and download the newest drivers. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game…A few things could be happening, the air bases could be over crowded, even by just a few will totally ruin them. Dont even think of putting 2 torps, 4 CA guns and a spotting plane on the Takao class ships that are somehow Myoko class ships in Hoi4 even though they are different. Specialized destroyers and naval bombers should do the trick. The only techs that are worth it are Fire Control and Submarine Hulls; many other navy techs aren't worth the investment. Fleet in Being is just basic for surface fleets. Latest HOI4 resource history spreadsheet (HOI4v 1. lwp2004 • 4 yr. It's the meta for a reason. 1. k. The reason for submarine spamming in game and in history iis because they were cheap. Jump to latest Follow Reply. Ok, definitely gonna look into that tomorrow. I manage to do the simple things like annex france etc and all of europe is under my control, by 1942 atleast, uk and us spam millions of naval invasions mainland of france of mini units, i have about 200 divisions defending ports and coast but they dont stop coming and. r/hoi4. 1. Are there any mods or alternate maps that remove the naval aspect of the game so I can just draw battle plans and design tanks/planes/divisions to my heart's content?The planning bonus affects every statistic. So forget submarine detection for escorts or expensive ships, simply spam old DD with 1 depth charge. Before joining the war I wanted to naval invade Gibraltar, Malta and Cyprus really quickly to cut off British ports in the Mediterranean and block their access to it, but my navy got immediately obliterated and I only. I am not an expert by any means, but I feel fairly competent with most of the game's mechanics. For example it goes from 3 bars to 2 bars and then 1 bar and then it pauses the game. DD and Naval Bomber spam. Console command to change nations once they are formed. This is where you have a submarine with an engine and single torpedo tube and build as many as you can due to the cheap production cost. The desktop kind. json (in document/paradox interactive/hoi4) it's the list of mods you have subscribed to. The destroyer patrols that kill subs get absolutely manhandled by Cruisers. subscribers . spam update to force bruv to update eliezer1245 May 6 @. 1- don't do any focus until you get 50 pp and immediately justify on poland. The airbases could be low on supply, for this you’ll have to fix railways and add supply hubs and/or move supply heavy troops away from them, This one can be pretty tricky to do with depending on the region. Concentrate on upgrades that reduce visibility and torpedo reveal chance. lancefighter • 4 yr. Friendly fire from the thousands of shells from the 33 Japanese battleships. Antonio. Naval Rebalance - Sub and Cruiser spam is DEAD!! #hoi4 #news #HYPE A closer look at the new Dev Diary with a look at some changes to the Naval aspect of the game! A NEW DLC is in. (can construct avg 8-12/year) CL Light Cruiser – Most versatile, Moderate to expensive cost, reliable and durable Moderate to Fast speeds. Basically, the speed of motorized is enough. Trade Interdiction makes ur surface fleets & subs be less visible to the enemy navy so ambushes are more efficient and running away is easier + u can raid convoys efficiently. Idk if it's because of enemy intel or his divisions on the front. 666. 11. Some lesser known factors that affect naval supremacy : - Air superiority is a factor on naval supremacy - Some missions (convoy raiding and escort) only give you half the naval superiority point, so be sure to be either in strike force, reconnaissance or naval invasion support (training obviously gives 0 point)Well, if submarine 3 is good enough, in practice, against the AI, then upgrading may be counterproductive simply due to production cost. : r/hoi4. Instead, they provide a pittance. All talk and no fight. Will 10-0s push well enough? I noticed it’s very difficult for me to get and keep a solid foothold in China and keep pushing. This is the fact AI never upgrades sonar or detection and will never retreat when they cannot detect their enemy. I don't know if others have different experiences but most people I encounter just say that sub 3 spam is unbeatable, I keep my destroyers and cruisers with max Sub Detection. Submarine spam 1-2 tank divisions. America Meridionalis: Central & South America Expanded is a mod that seeks to rework every nation in Central and South America plus the Caribbean's. At the core of winning the air war is the development of an effective fighter design. ago. fug. Superior firepower also is the best doctrine against Germany. December 7 at 11:41 AM. What I've heard is basically this: Trade Interdiction is literally the best and only naval doctrine because of how much it reduces visibility, or something to that effect. This page was last edited on 7 May 2017, at 15:55. In November, we hit our favourite milestone to date; 1 MILLION ACTIV. When you get the 1940 subs w/ snorkels, you can go on the offense to hunt down big fleets. Naval supremacy of ship = 100. There's a huge opportunity cost to building carriers, not just in terms of MIC to build the planes and NIC to build the CV (plus their screens), but there are better uses of your research slots. This mod makes no changes to vanilla ships or modules. Get them close to the border and set off the conflict. This makes them heavy cruisers so they get protected by your Destroyers. - When your fleet meets and enemy fleet they begin a naval battle. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by…It is the most efficient in responding to the escort needs of convoys and in anti-submarine warfare. This is the most efficient way to design good divisions if you aren't allowed to participate in the Spanish Civil War. The AI just doesn't have to do much by comparison in other Paradox titles. Heavy tanks are good for fighting other tanks, like lights or mediums or other heavies. Exemple Japanese Submarine. This becomes a problem because laptops have inherently weaker processors. Ok so in the great war hoi4 mod (Im playing as German Empire), if you go on construction and look at the trench and land fort icons, they are both grey meaning they need to be unlocked. 1. Low supply use divisions let you have tons of divisions on the front, but they're bad at offense. 4 comments. If you're looking for a competent surface fleet to fight other ships with, the basics is cheap DD with good engine and some torpedoes, and heavy cruisers loaded down with light attack. r/hoi4 • When the Superior Firepower-cel say something so defensephobic you gotta hit them with the GBPChad stare. I've always annihilated and been annihilated if subs/destroyers run into a large naval group. Firstly is the torpedo-ships. Motorized are largely just faster infantry. Edit to link to my cut/paste.